I met Jesse in circumstances similar to our last guest, initially through my work with Virtually Connecting for Digital Pedagogy Lab workshops, his prolific blogging and tweeting and was finally able to meet him in person at the 2016 edition of the OpenEd Conference. Jesse is one of my key mentors in my work on #ungrading or #abolishgrading and it is difficult for me to express how happy I was that he joined me on this podcast episode.
Extra fun, Jesse requested to leave the interruption of a phone ringing and my asking my son to answer the phone. Then interruptions by both of my other children. Perfect attendance, so all of these stay in. Almost apologies but in a way I like to keep the conversation authentic.
This episode was recorded on June 4, 2019.
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